The following is an interview between Glen Peterson and myself, Daniel Rinella.
We discuss some of the “ins and outs” of an amputees experience, in the hopes that we might be able to help current and future amputees that are going through some similar experiences. The things that you read here are meant to be health information, not medical advice.
Daniel Rinella: Okay go ahead Glen…
Glen Peterson: There’s gonna be a couple, three, four stages of it. The first stage is the initial amputation part, especially if it was trauma. So you’re not expecting it coming. One day you’re perfectly fine, the next day you lost your legs. Kinda like what happened to me. It’s shocking. You gotta kinda just put your chin up no matter what life, what kinda lemons life throws at you, you gotta make lemonade. I know it’s a cliché little saying, but it really works. Just stay as positive as humanly possible. I mean your attitude in life determines your success in anything.
Daniel Rinella: You can only do as good as you can do.
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I still get down. I mean there are days when I run around, my doors in my house are small so I have a little power scooter I run around on, and some days I forget to charge the power scooter and I’m like man, man I wish I wasn’t an amputee. And then it comes to the anniversary type stuff… I mean I’m approaching my fifth year in three days, and I’m like… you get down and… yeah.
Daniel Rinella: So people don’t forget that time, that day?…
Glen Peterson: Not at all. I got sick February 16th 2011, I got put in the hospital February 21st, and I was amputated March 14th. I mean I remember every…
Daniel Rinella: That was five years ago?
Glen Peterson: Five years ago. 2011.
Daniel Rinella: 2011, okay.
Glen Peterson: So when this time of year comes around I mean I’m always down. My productivity at work is always slumps at this time of year because I just don’t wanna do anything, and it’s just, I mean as soon as it passes,… I’m like oh good deal again, I’m back to work and I’m happy. I mean I’ve had relationships struggles,… it’s a struggle. You’re not gonna be the same as what you were, but you can be the better person. You could, you build up. Its really… I’m missing my hands and my legs, or most of my fingers and my legs. If someone were to ask me what would you rather have back, I’d rather have my hands back all day long.
Daniel Rinella: All day long?
Glen Peterson: All day long. I mean I can deal without legs, I can walk around [with my prosthetic legs], I mean I walk, run, jump, I mean I’m a door to door salesman for goodness sakes. There’s nothing I can’t do. I ran into a guy at my mom had a doctor’s appointment last week, and he was an above-knee amputee, and I was walking through, I was wearing shorts, I was walking through to the elevator and he winked at me. It’s like all amputees wave at each other. Like motorcycle riders they always wave at each other. So my mom was in her appointment, I went back downstairs to the car, I forgot my coffee or something, and as I’m walking back in he’s like, “hey brother let me talk to you, let me talk to you”. And I’m like, “alright”. And it kind of gets old after awhile. But oh my gosh it does. He’s like, “let me talk to you”.
Daniel Rinella: And you can’t turn him down…
Glen Peterson: No, you gotta be nice, you gotta be friendly, you can’t be a jerk because I mean he’s going through the same thing you’ve went through. So he’s like, “how long you’ve been an amputee? You walking real good.” I’m like, “I’ve been an amputee, just at five years.” And he was like, “man you walk so good, how long you been walking without crutches?” And really I started walking without crutches almost immediately.
Daniel Rinella: So that’s a great thing to actually bring up… So, you had the surgery and then you start the process… Can you tell people about your experience with that? Are you comfortable with talking about this?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, yeah it was, like I said I was amputated March 14th and it was a healing process for me. I had, mine was definitely all trauma. What happened is my kidneys shut down and it kinda just made blood escape through everywhere. So I had ulcers going throughout my whole body. So, when they picked the place to amputate my feet were completely dead, and that’s what my family initially thought was gonna be amputated. But, with the ulcers going all up my leg they had to remove more and more of my leg.
Daniel Rinella: So those were complications?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, so I was amputated, and instead of them closing me up they just put wound vacs on me and they were just gonna just skin graft me closed. So I had to wait for everything to heal with the wound vacs, it was a long process for me. I mean I didn’t get, I got out of the hospital May 31st. So I spent three months ten days in the hospital and I was still healing. I didn’t get my first set of legs until July, mid-July.
Daniel Rinella: Can you talk about why that is? I mean a lot of it, not everyone knows this, but a lot of people have to get some experience about how your limb has changed. Can you talk about that?
Glen Peterson: It just wasn’t healing at that point. Because of all the, because of all the ulcers on my legs, when he sewed me up I still had some wounds, I still had drainage, and they had to make sure before it was weight-bearing that I had to completely be healed. I mean it had to at least all been scabbed over before they released my legs to me. So they put me in, they initially put me in this super just an outdated technology in prosthetics just to get me upright again. It was… I don’t even know. It wasn’t a pin lock; it was just a bunch of socks. You just have to keep putting a bunch, a bunch, a bunch of socks [on]…
Daniel Rinella: Did your swelling keep changing after the amputation surgery?
Glen Peterson: And… I don’t even know what the system was called. I didn’t wear it for too long. I wore it just in the doctor’s office and then he made me a set of legs and he released them mid-July, so…
Daniel Rinella: Can I ask where that was done at?
Glen Peterson: I was at the Center for Orthotics.
Daniel Rinella: Oh, so you’re saying the prosthetist, or the person who was working on the device…
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I mean the doctor immediately called his favorite prosthetic company. We don’t have to go with who the doctor says, but that’s the first guy I saw. The guy became a real good friend of mine, Russell, you know who he is?
Daniel Rinella: I’ve heard of him, yeah.
Glen Peterson: He became a really good friend of mine, he came in and he was like listen man you don’t have to go with me but I would love to take care of you because I’m gonna do exactly for you, what I would do for me, if I were in this situation… And I’m like alright, I’ll go with you. And…
Daniel Rinella: That’s a good start…
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I mean just I’m gonna give you the best, I’m gonna get you exactly what I would want. And I stuck with him, and he was super awesome with me. And when he cast me and he had my stuff two days later, and he was constantly in…
Daniel Rinella: So a lot of people think okay so I just had a surgery, an amputation surgery, and I want to, I want to be treated as soon as possible, but there’s a certain amount of patience that goes with it. Would you agree with that? Like you had to wait, what is it, April, May, June, July, four months until you were basically done healing?
Glen Peterson: Yeah it’s a healing process, I mean the last thing you want is those staples to break and your limb to completely open up and to have to start the process over again.
Daniel Rinella: Because sometimes people see, like they read things online and it says, “oh I just got up. I just got my first legs and they were perfect right off the bat”. And, I think the same reader thinks “oh they must have got them within a week after that surgery”, but it’s not necessarily that case.
Glen Peterson: No, not at all. I’ve been through leg after leg after leg. I’ve been an amputee five years and I’ve probably had six different sets, because “A” your limb definitely changes, so if they cast you as soon as you’re ready, which could be two three months, cast you as soon as you’re ready, your limb’s gonna shrink a little bit more the next week, and the next week. Because, I mean, you’re wearing the shrinker socks, so I mean it’s…
Daniel Rinella: So you keep adding socks [to fill up the socket due to a change in edema]?
Glen Peterson: You keep adding the socks to it, but to get a perfect fit the first time out the gate, that’s unheard of. It really is. My last set I got, and I’d been an amputee at this point for four and a half years, my last set was a perfect fit. I absolutely loved it, Medicare approved another set for me so I went and got casted, and it took almost a year to get that socket set perfect.
Daniel Rinella: Really?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I ended up scrapping the whole project and went to my old ones because it takes awhile. I mean you’re gonna get blistered and…
Daniel Rinella: You also get used to it?…
Glen Peterson: Oh yeah, naturally. And your limbs get used to it. It’s not just necessarily your muscles that are used to it. You’re putting something on your legs that have never been there before, like wearing a brand new pair of shoes. What happens when you wear those all day? Blisters, breakdown, and it’s the same thing. So…
Daniel Rinella: So you just gotta be as careful as you can be…?
Glen Peterson: Just as careful and as patient as you can be.
Daniel Rinella: So you can feel everything [in your residual limbs], is that right?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I can feel a hundred percent. Everything. I can even feel all the way down my leg. I drive with my feet.
Daniel Rinella: Okay, so you can feel all the way down [into your prosthetic legs]?
Glen Peterson: Yeah I can feel all the way down. I mean if I had my legs on, I took them off [just now for the interview], but if I had them on I can feel someone step on my foot. I mean not the physical pressure of someone stepping on your foot…
Daniel Rinella: It travels up the limb…? Okay. So, it’s good that you’re actually touching on that because a lot of people think, you know, “I’m just going to be right back to where I was,… after the surgery I’m going to be good to go right away.” But that’s a good point. The other thing is, can you talk to me about [how you approach things differently as an amputee], like the woman I was talking to the other day was talking about entry into buildings, if there’s problems, she said that sometimes people will offer you transportation but they’ll only pick you up at the end of your driveway. They won’t help you from your door to the end of your driveway, and sometimes that matters for amputees. Did you go through any of that?
Glen Peterson: I’m proud. I’ve been too proud to ask for any help. I bought a house after I got out of the hospital, and the builder, he was so excited to see I was an amputee he was like now I can put a ramp up. I’m like, “no”, I didn’t want a ramp. So I’m just too proud as far as that goes. I remember I pulled my power cart outside and I couldn’t get back in, and I called an ambulance, and those people picked me up and put me back inside. So people are, they go out of their way to help you. If you read something where someone’s like, “we’re gonna be at the end of your driveway”, no one’s a jerk like that… No one’s a jerk. I mean everyone’s got a heart, I don’t care what…
Daniel Rinella: So many people would open doors [and help you down the driveway etc]…?
Glen Peterson: I think they would. Policy and the heart are two different things. All day long it’s two different things. I’ve never had an issue getting into houses, or…
Daniel Rinella: Just as health care providers we have to walk a line… [Sometimes there are rules instilled by insurance companies as to what health care providers can and can not do for patients in fear of incentivizing people to take your service…]
Glen Peterson: Definitely.
Daniel Rinella: That’s probably where that comes from.
Daniel Rinella: What’s something you would tell a new amputee?
Glen Peterson: It gets better. It gets better. Don’t hang out in bed, don’t take pain meds. If it’s…
Daniel Rinella: Don’t hang out in your wheelchair, if you can help it?
Glen Peterson: Correct. I mean if you can, if you’re a unilateral, walk around on crutches. Don’t hang out in the chair. If you’re a bilateral, crawl places. Don’t just sit and get fat. Just…
Daniel Rinella: Right, because that’ll create more problems for your legs?
Glen Peterson: More depression. It’s not even for the legs, I mean I guess…
Daniel Rinella: So it’s the mental part, that’s the real game?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, if you sit and stay still you’re just gonna be devastated. You’re just gonna think about what happened to you. If you’re ashamed of your limbs and you shouldn’t be. Show your metal. If you’re ashamed of your limbs wear pants. No one will know. Walk around. Just try to be as normal as possible. Find your new goal.
Daniel Rinella: Gotcha. So can you talk to me about the legs that you went through? Like you said you went through a series of legs, over what period of time? Three and a half years is what you’re saying?
Glen Peterson: I got my first set in June, my second set in December, and then I went back to my first set but different sockets… probably about once a year. I’ve had three different pairs of feet.
Daniel Rinella: To whoever would read this one day, can you explain why? And it sounds like, in your experience that’s a normal thing?
Glen Peterson: Yeah it’s a hundred percent normal. I mean especially as a new amputee you’re constantly getting shrinkage. If your limb is sitting in here, or sitting in the socket throughout the day, it’s gonna reduce in size. So you’re gonna have to buy socks. The more active you are the more weight you’re gonna lose. Every ten pounds of fluctuation is a new socket. I don’t care what your prosthetist says, it’s a new socket. Insurance will have no problem covering a new socket for it. So that was a lot for me, I mean I’m up and down on my weight all the time, and sometimes I get lazy and gain the weight, put new legs on, and then I’ll go back down.
Daniel Rinella: Can you talk to me about your current legs? What do you have?
Glen Peterson: The feet I have right now, this is a really good foot and I recommend everyone at least tries it out as a newer amputee, or even a K3 or a K4, but I wear a nice little, it’s a plastic foot. It’s new on the market, it’s called a rush foot.
Daniel Rinella: A rush foot, okay.
Glen Peterson: Let me get back to my first, I had Freedom Silhouettes. It was like an athletic foot. It was meant for like a K3, K4, which means a high active amputee or bilateral amputee. It was a reactive foot, I liked it, it was a real stiff foot, kinda bouncy at times, and my prosthetist he…
Daniel Rinella: The Silhouette…?
Glen Peterson: The Silhouette, the Silhouette VS, it was kinda bouncy and it had spring to it. It was kinda J-shaped.
Daniel Rinella: And you liked that, or you did not like that?
Glen Peterson: I did like it. I mean it kinda felt more normal than that. And the prosthetist I used, he’s all about technology. He’s all about a foot that plugs in, he’s all about, so six months later he fought for me with the insurance company to get me the Proprios. They were great feet, especially for a newer amputee, or an older amputee.
Daniel Rinella: In your experience what’s the difference between the Silhouette and the one you just mentioned?
Glen Peterson: The Proprios it’s an electric foot. So, as you’re walking up ramps at your third step your feet match the grade so it kinda makes it easier to walk up. As you’re going up steps it raises the angle for it so it kinda helps. It’s kind of for older people, and in my experience it’s a real heavy foot. I didn’t like the foot because it was so heavy.
Daniel Rinella: Why do you say it’s for older people?
Glen Peterson: Because it assists you in doing things…
Daniel Rinella: Okay, so it does a little bit of the work for you?
Glen Peterson: It does a little; it doesn’t do any of the work but it…
Daniel Rinella: It reacts?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I remember when I first got my legs, as I was walking I had to re-teach myself how to walk completely. So I would stub my toe every chance I got. So, with the Proprios what it does is in swing phase mode it raises the foot up a little bit so you drop down on your heel, and then it goes down, and you kinda, it kinda just matches how you walk. It’s a smart foot basically…
Daniel Rinella: So you’ve heard the term now heel to toe [gait pattern].
Glen Peterson: Heel to toe, yeah, and I heel to toe now I don’t even think about it anymore, but back then, it was, I mean…
Daniel Rinella: You had to hike up your leg to get it through?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I mean it felt like I was doing more of a march versus a walk. Don’t skip your PT. I didn’t have PT at first. I didn’t go to PT until almost two years after I got sick. And just because I didn’t need it. I mean I taught myself how to walk and I didn’t need it. And after my hands were done he [Glen’s doctor] sent me to OT, and I’m sitting there they were like hey you should do PT. They were probably just looking for the cash from it, but I’m like you “think it’d help?” They’re like “absolutely”. Now I mean after I left PT I was walking, I don’t know, a hundred and fifty feet, I got up to walking a mile.
Daniel Rinella: So what are the things you worked on in PT, may I ask?
Glen Peterson: Balance…
Daniel Rinella: So heel to toe [gait training]?
Glen Peterson: Balance, stamina, just core. I mean it’s the stuff you’d work on if you had your back messed up.
Daniel Rinella: And all that really helped you?
Glen Peterson: Oh yeah, treadmill walking, I mean…
Daniel Rinella: So, as an in-patient, when you were in the hospital it was more just like helping you to get going from the bed to a chair kind of thing?
Glen Peterson: Yeah in-patient was…
Daniel Rinella: Did they teach you how to take care of your [residual] limb at all?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, let me think five years ago… no I don’t think they really taught me how to wash my limb. I was still wrapped up, so I mean I was still fresh out of surgery. But they taught me how to transfer. Transferring is important. I remember when I first got amputated, immediately they were like: “get up!” I’m like, “no”. So that happened and the next day I’m talking February or March 15th, 2011, they were like, “alright sit at the end of the bed.” And being a bilateral, sitting at the end of the bed that’s a far drop. And it scared the, oh I’m sorry; it scared the crap out of me.
Daniel Rinella: Because you’re more thinking, I don’t want to fall and hit the surgery area?
Glen Peterson: I don’t wanna; no I don’t wanna just fall and die. Because that looks like thirty feet. And I was just, I was terrified. So they gave me a transfer board, and they were like okay you can get into a wheelchair like this. And so I thought I needed a transfer board all the time. I mean I had my family buy one when I got out of the hospital. And now I mean I’m sitting higher than what a hospital bed is now, I’ve got no problem jumping down and I’ll try to climb back up. I mean it’s just, it’s stuff you get used to. I mean, if I drop something I’m not gonna rely on you to go get it. I’m gonna go get it myself.
Daniel Rinella: Okay, so what about checking in with the prosthetist? How many times do you do that a year? Do you recommend a certain amount or no?
Glen Peterson: Just when it feels uncomfortable. Once you get your perfect fit for you, and it could take…
Daniel Rinella: Could it be years, [before you need to see them again?]
Glen Peterson: It could take months, it could take years. You have to get a guy you love, because if you don’t like the guy you’re never gonna be happy with his work. Just like buying a car, if you don’t like the car salesman you’re not gonna buy the car, but you kinda feel in the prosthetist’s sense like but I need the car, I need to get my legs, so I’m coming here. So find the guy you like, find a guy you trust, and you guys will work together, troubleshoot stuff. It shouldn’t take, once you’re upright it shouldn’t take more than a couple weeks, a couple of visits to get your gait perfect. Go to him and the PT and then just work with each other, and it shouldn’t take all that long at all. It really shouldn’t.
Daniel Rinella: Can you talk to me about your sockets you have here?
Glen Peterson: Yeah I’ve got…
Daniel Rinella: What were some of the problems you had with the socket?
Glen Peterson: These or in general?
Daniel Rinella: Just in general. Do you ever have pain in your residual limb, like your shin bone? Because that’s a sensitive bone at the crest?
Glen Peterson: I have had some revisions. Let me see if I can pull it out so I can point at it while I’m talking about it.
Daniel Rinella: So you have a passive, is this a…
Glen Peterson: It’s just a one-way valve is all it is. There’s no technology in that at all. Basically what happens is my limb goes into my socket and it just pushes air out, kinda like a suction cup.
Daniel Rinella: Okay, so then it kinda holds onto the…
Glen Peterson: It holds on to it. Now with your shinbones I’ve had a couple of revisions because it felt they didn’t get, I was so skinny when they closed my limbs up they didn’t put enough fat in between, so there was a bone poking out. Expect a new amputee, I mean it could be next week, you could be next year, it could be in ten years, you’re gonna have another surgery. It’s just a matter of when.
Daniel Rinella: Really?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, I’ve never met an amputee that hasn’t had a revision.
Daniel Rinella: Really, that’s an interesting point.
Glen Peterson: So I mean if it hurts, do everything in your power to get it fixed with the prosthesis. Tell the prosthetist exactly where it hurts, he’ll blow it out, I mean especially when you’re on your check socket. He’ll blow it out, he’ll cushion it out.
Daniel Rinella: Just for people that don’t know, a check socket is…
Glen Peterson: It’s your first socket. It’s the, what they do is they’ll take, I don’t know what’s the plastic, they’ll take a piece of plastic and it’s kinda see-through so when you put it on they’ll hook it to your leg and they’ll put it on, and…
Daniel Rinella: So it’s like you’re testing [the fit]. It’s like your testing socket, right?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, they see exactly where your limb is touching in the socket and if they need to blow it out. They will if they need to…
Daniel Rinella: When you say “blow it out” it means push out the spot that’s gonna create a sore spot or something like that? Glen Peterson: Yeah, push out the spot that hurts. And then when you get your definitive socket, which is the one you’re gonna live with, it’s non-changeable. I mean it’s pretty much there in stone. It’s laminated, it’s carbon-fiber, it’s unmovable, and so it should be a perfect fit to you.
Daniel Rinella: Any other advice that you give to people in general? We were just talking about, you know, like to meet up with other amputees. You were saying for yourself that…
Glen Peterson: I have, I like almost every support type group on Facebook. Amputee supports, there’s a bunch of them. I mean I’ve helped some people that have wanted to commit suicide. I mean, they go through, yeah, they go through they’re like “I need help, I’m really having a bad day today. I don’t wanna make it anymore”. And I’ve got just such an outgoing personality I’ll reach out to them, and everyone will reach out to them, and just, “hey it’s alright, we’re in the same boat. We’re all in the same boat. It’s…”
Daniel Rinella: They have the choice you know to try to focus on being positive?
Glen Peterson: It’s so much easier to talk to someone. Don’t worry, you’re gonna meet amputees in life. I don’t know if you’ve ever bought a car, and you’ve never seen that car before, but as soon as you buy it you see a bunch of these cars. It’s the same thing with amputees. You’re gonna run into them everywhere. You’re gonna be able to troubleshoot and talk about everything.
Daniel Rinella: I hear people talk about water legs, have you ever talked about that or seen anything about that? Just curious if you have thoughts on that?
Glen Peterson: I’ve never personally put on a swimming leg, mainly because…
Daniel Rinella: You’re just not a beach guy?
Glen Peterson: No, I’ve brought these [Glen’s current prostheses] to the beach.
Daniel Rinella: Oh, so yours are not water legs but… Glen Peterson: They’re not water legs, but with them being plastic they’re not gonna get damaged too bad. I went to Nassau and usually when I go swimming at a pool I’ll just take my legs off. I don’t stand up taking showers, it’s just because it’s safer. I prefer to sit down.
Daniel Rinella: What about washing? I know you wash your skin on your residual limb. Is there anything you advise people to do?
Glen Peterson: Wash your liners. Basically the way a leg hooks up is you gotta put a liner on first, and depending what kind of system you have you gotta add some socks, But for the most part you’re gonna have a liner, and they’re gonna get sweaty, and they’re gonna get dirty, and they’re gonna smell.
Daniel Rinella: How long does that liner last for?
Glen Peterson: Insurance picks up two every six months.
Daniel Rinella: So, one for each leg?
Glen Peterson: Every quarter you can get them replaced, one for each leg. No, two for each leg. So, every three months you get new liners. Technically, I know this is awful for me, I’ve worn my liners, I’ve had these liners almost a year because they’re broke into what I like and I just don’t wanna change them. Health factor. I should probably change them but I like them. I’ve got three more sets of liners at home.
Daniel Rinella: That’s an interesting model [for Glen’s prosthetic legs], because it’s got something that looks like it locks in, in a sense.
Glen Peterson: Yeah, it’s just rubber that hooks on to the inside of the socket, and it’s called the X5 I believe, but the rubber creates a seal so air can’t get in and get out. So I suggest going to this system. I’ve had a pin lock system. I didn’t like it. I felt there was too much pull on my residual. It hurt.
Daniel Rinella: That’s a great point; can you just go off on that a little bit?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, a pin lock system is basically it looks like a screw. It sticks out the bottom of your liner. To put it on you have to make sure that screw is one hundred percent straight. What happens is once your leg goes into your socket there’s a nut that it clicks to, and there’s a little button that you push to release it and it comes off. With me it felt with the pin lock system it was never comfortable…
Daniel Rinella: It was like tugging on the end of your leg?
Glen Peterson: It tugged on the end of my leg. If it wasn’t on straight I’d go into the socket and it would crash up against the side of my socket and it would hurt my residual limb. So I just I hated it. They moved me from there to…
Daniel Rinella: Passive suction?
Glen Peterson: No, the sleeve. The liner and sleeve system suspension. And it doesn’t work. They didn’t perfect that when they made it, basically because on your sockets with carbon fiber or whatever it’s all sharp edges. So the more you walk the more active you are that sharp edge is gonna cut through that sleeve.
Daniel Rinella: So I see on yours right now you have like a blue material. Does that help with any friction? Is that what it’s supposed to be?
Glen Peterson: It’s supposed to be. I wear a lot of dress pants, I wear a lot of jeans, so as I’m driving in my car my leg sits up against my door and my pants rub on, and I cut through pants. I cut through a pair of pants every other week. So I just use that to kind of save me some money on pants occasionally.
Daniel Rinella: Yeah that makes sense, totally makes sense.
Glen Peterson: But typically… so you can see where I wear it out.
Daniel Rinella: So the pants get caught there you’re saying?
Glen Peterson: It rubs as if, as it’s on this part kinda sticks out a little bit and just rubs up against the car. The vibration of the car rubs it and just it rubs a hole in this. So I’ve got that there to kinda give me an extra week or two on a pair of slacks.
Daniel Rinella: Okay, anything else you would tell people? You don’t have to; don’t worry if it comes to you later that’s fine too. So just take care of the leg, patience…?
Glen Peterson: Take care of it…
Daniel Rinella: You’re going to go through a few legs potentially and don’t be upset by that.
Glen Peterson: Definitely, it’s trial and error?
Daniel Rinella: You’ve gotta like the prosthetist.
Glen Peterson: You’ve gotta love the prosthetist. He’s the guy you’re gonna be with forever, I mean hopefully forever. And just keep your hopes up. I mean reach out…
Daniel Rinella: How often can you get a new leg in your experience?
Glen Peterson: I have never been denied for a leg.
Daniel Rinella: So you’ve had more than one a year, is that correct?
Glen Peterson: Let me see, I’ve had three sets of feet, so after five years, and one set was seventy five thousand dollars to the…
Daniel Rinella: The feet, the Proprios?
Glen Peterson: The Proprios were seventy five thousand bucks. Never been denied for that, and I’ve never, I’ve had six or seven sets of sockets, never been denied. It’s as needed. I mean insurance really, I mean they really care. They really do. I mean I’ve never, maybe it’s because I’m bilateral and I’m always up and down on my weight that they always get me new feet, but I don’t know they never give me any grief.
Daniel Rinella: I think a lot of it has to do with as long as there’s a justification it’s valid?
Glen Peterson: Yeah, okay. Typically.
Daniel Rinella: Alright I appreciate it. Thank you.
Glen Peterson: No worries.